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Published on February 26, 2008 By Tova7 In Home & Family

Hunter, my twelve year old, went for his yearly physical.  The Dr. said "he's started puberty."

We jokingly refer to him as our "pre-teen" but if he's in puberty, seems like he should already be a teenager.

Some things I've noticed about him in the last few months.... He likes to spend free time alone in his bedroom.  He has a computer, tv, all the toys, but he only games on the weekends.  It's not just that he likes to do it, but it seems like he really hates doing things with our family now.  He's always loved going to Mississippi on Spring Break.  We own 75 acres of beautiful forest land there.  We fish, hunt, ride ATV's, take long walks in the woods.  When I mentioned going this year he shrugged and said he'd rather stay home and game.

I know part of the reason he has problems with doing family things is Gavin.  Gavin just turned five and is all big loud personality.  Hunter is more introspective and quiet.  He doesn't like being the center of attention, but he's a natural leader.  Meaning, when he is together with friends, he always ends up "suggesting" what they do, how they do it, etc.  I guess he's bossy, but in a boy kind of way.

Anyway, Gavin won't be bossed.  He tells Hunter, "You're not the BOSS OF ME!"  Whenever Hunter tells him something helpful like, "Gavin, shut the bathroom door please."  or "Gavin leave my room."

So, going and doing with the family isn't a priority for him anymore.  Frankly, I hate to force him to come along because then its a great big sulk fest....which leads to my husband getting angry, which ruins the whole outing.

My extended family encourages me to let my husband deal with it.  Teen boys need a strong man and all that.  I do believe it, but sometimes I think my husband is too hard on Hunter.  But, then, heh, sometimes he says I am.

I want to give Hunter his space.  I really appreciated my space when I was a teen.  I liked being alone and doing things which interested me.  But how much alone time is too much?

I would appreciate any feedback from people who have raised, or are raising teen boys.  Do you agree that this is the time when Dad really needs to be in control/gauging normal from not normal?  What if Dad and son are both Alpha?

I guess its time to start the next phase.  And like the phases before I don't have any good role model experience, so I will turn to books.  When Hunter was about three years old, or there abouts, I was reading a book on discipline.  He was smart, he knew that book was the source of the "new rules" and he wasn't impressed with them or me.  I found the book in the toilet.  hahahahahaha

Why do I just know our upcoming issues won't be solved by rescuing a book from a good flushing?


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on Feb 27, 2008
Oh lord, yes. Davey especially. Mind you, his dad does the same thing, so it's not hard to see where he gets it from. Big Dave will sulk and whine when he has to do something he doesn't like, and the apple hasn't fallen far from the tree with Teenage Davey. Shea's not so bad; she's more of a 'go with the flow' character and doesn't complain a whole lot about anything.


hahaha

Well I am *glad* to hear we're not the only ones. My husband and I aren't complainers so I hope its just a phase, but I'm not holding my breath.

I may not complain now, but good grief, when I was a teen, I won the biggest complainer award in Home Economics.   
on Feb 27, 2008
This is a little off topic but reading about the trials and tribulations of teens makes me wonder how my dear mother ever survived as she had, at one stage, 4 of her five children all going through puberty. She must have been driven crazy...
on Feb 27, 2008
This is a little off topic but reading about the trials and tribulations of teens makes me wonder how my dear mother ever survived as she had, at one stage, 4 of her five children all going through puberty. She must have been driven crazy...


Maybe so crazy she drove back to sanity.

~Zoo
on Feb 27, 2008
Maybe so crazy she drove back to sanity


Hmm, possibly. It certainly explains why she is so happy now.
on Feb 28, 2008

Hmm, possibly. It certainly explains why she is so happy now

hahaha.  Well, maybe she's happy its ALL OVER!

This is a little off topic but reading about the trials and tribulations of teens makes me wonder how my dear mother ever survived as she had, at one stage, 4 of her five children all going through puberty. She must have been driven crazy...

Not off topic at all....

Wow, she must be something.  You should do something extra nice for her today.

 

on Feb 28, 2008

Oh, he is going for sure. He isn't old enough to be home by himself for more than an hour or so. He is mature enough, and ready to be, I'm not though.

another memory to share here.  Our house rule had always been that when we were not home, nobody was supposed to come over without us knowing about it. 

Well we went somewhere out of state.....I'm thinking college something or another for the other two and David didn't want to come so we left him home. I think he was a Senior.   While he was very popular in school he was mostly a loner after school liking to spend time alone running, playing basketball etc.  He never really brought friends over in HS that I can remember.  But that week or so while we were gone guess what he did? 

I found out later (moms always find out eventually) that he had a bunch of friends over.  Some of these kids I didn't know.  I was pretty surprised because David of all kids would have been the last to do this...or so I thought.   They weren't over long and there was no partying or anything it was just the fact that he did it that surprised me.  

It also helps that David is a neatnick so there was no tell-tale signs.   Brian found out that one of these kids was able to describe in detail Brian's room so Brian knew what had happened.

That's the great thing about having kids so close together.....most of the time stuff leaks out by a sibling and they know it.  Helps keep em' straight....LOL. 

 

on Feb 28, 2008

Our house rule had always been that when we were not home, nobody was supposed to come over without us knowing about it.

Good rule, we will def have something along those lines as well.

David did that?

NO WAY!  That is hilarious, but he is the baby, and I think they get away with more.  I know Gavin already gets away with more than we ever let Hunter even think about.  We're learning as we go, so luckily for Gavin, we've learned lots of stuff we stressed with Hunter really weren't that big a deal.

There is a reason God gave me Gavin second..if he was first...there wouldn't be anymore!

on Feb 28, 2008

 

David did that?

Yep and I was non to happy but I found out really too late to do anything about it.  He was a bit sheepish...big grin saying something along the line of...."nothing happened."  "Beside the point" I said.  "Soooooo we can't trust you?  That's what you're telling us?"  He didn't care.  He lives in the moment.  He never looks past it.   

he is the baby, and I think they get away with more

Yep at least that's what the other two are ALWAYS telling us.  And to boot....David is such a charmer.  Not only with us but with others as well.  I shake my head on how he gets out of things with just his charm.  He's going to probably go further than the other two who have the brains.  David, (don't tell him this) doesn't have the brains the other two have because he never had to use them much.  He's just starting to realize it's good to know things now. 

We're learning as we go, so luckily for Gavin, we've learned lots of stuff we stressed with Hunter really weren't that big a deal.

and I'm going to guess by not going too far out on a limb that you're not done yet.  HS can be very stressful.  Lots of potential dangers and obstacles to get through along the way.  It can be very scary sometimes for the mom who wants the very best for her kid forget about just getting your kid to 18 in one piece. 

There is a reason God gave me Gavin second..if he was first...there wouldn't be anymore

And that's exactly what I said about David.  He was the worst of all three and the best of all three as well in some ways.  He's very extreme.  He was very loving but hard headed as well at times.  HE's the only one that I kept saying while in a conversation with him....."I'll be back after I go hit my head against the wall."   I'm just amazed he's about to graduate college.  I never thought I'd see this.  This is huge to us.  David graduating?  Wow! 

 

 

on Feb 28, 2008

You are gettting a lot of good advice but you will be fine and so will Hunter. You really and sincerely care about this situation and are open to ways to handle it. That's is half the battle. It will pass and then you will reach another passage in his life. It aint easy raising these boys sometimes, but oh so worth it.  Like you told me one time, the love, caring and communication will win. 

on Feb 29, 2008

Teen years - when the curse of your parents come true - "I hope you have X just like you when you get married!".

Just remember 2 things.  Most boys do make it to manhood and You are still the parent.

That should help you through the next 6 or 7 years.

on Feb 29, 2008

And that's exactly what I said about David. He was the worst of all three and the best of all three as well in some ways. He's very extreme. He was very loving but hard headed as well at times. HE's the only one that I kept saying while in a conversation with him....."I'll be back after I go hit my head against the wall." I'm just amazed he's about to graduate college. I never thought I'd see this. This is huge to us. David graduating? Wow!

I remember talking about having another kid with my husband.  Hunter was 5 and it was so AWESOME.  Everything was "wow" and the world was amazing to him.  Five was my very favorite year.

Up until that point I asked my friends, "What is so wonderful about having a kid that you want to repeat it?" heh.

But when he hit five I wanted it to last forever.  So we decided to have another child.  Except he is totally different, in every. single. way.  But he's wonderful in his own little ways.

I'm going to guess by not going too far out on a limb that you're not done yet. HS can be very stressful. Lots of potential dangers and obstacles to get through along the way. It can be very scary sometimes for the mom who wants the very best for her kid forget about just getting your kid to 18 in one piece.

Ya know, right now in Centerville there is a very big news story going on.  One of the members of the board of education...well her home was busted by the cops for underage drinking and drug use while she was not there.

About 6 adults and 6 minors are being charged.  Adults for supplying the stuff.  That is something I know happens.  Many of my friend's parents in hs had no problem buying alcohol for their kids.  In fact the "I'd rather it happen here" argument was used.

What is sad?  All the kids I know whose parents did this habitually, are all losers now.  They don't contribute to society in any substantial way.  Sadder, some of them dragged their best buddies down with them.

Yep at least that's what the other two are ALWAYS telling us. And to boot....David is such a charmer.
He didn't care. He lives in the moment. He never looks past it.

Ah, yes.  And he is a hottie...that always helps.  (Maybe not with the parents, but with everyone else...hahaha).  Of course he'd probably be totally grossed out that a woman in her 30's thinks he a cutie.  buwhahahahaha

 

on Feb 29, 2008

You are gettting a lot of good advice but you will be fine and so will Hunter. You really and sincerely care about this situation and are open to ways to handle it. That's is half the battle. It will pass and then you will reach another passage in his life. It aint easy raising these boys sometimes, but oh so worth it. Like you told me one time, the love, caring and communication will win.

You, my friend, are an amazing mom.  Your three boys are so fortunate to have you.  Hey, you and KFC have THREE boys.  I have noticed with my sons friends, the families with all boys, well the mom seems to be more, I don't know how to say it, not boyish, but more physical?  More out there and in the thick of sports and stuff.

Of course I usually only see the parents of boys because I have them and go to boy activities.  So that is probably biased.

But KFC is a hands on kind of mom, an athlete in her own right.  And you love to ski and fish and do all those outside things with your kids.

Ok, then, that was a bit of flighty thinkin.

on Feb 29, 2008

Most boys do make it to manhood and You are still the parent.

Yeah, most do.  But I have a monkey on my back.  Most of the men on my dad's side of the family aren't exactly my idea of "good men."  So I push my sons a little harder than I should sometimes.

I've heard mom should be "the soft place to fall."  That every kid needs that.

My kids don't really get that.  I love them sooo much, but I am usually not a soft place to fall.  I'm working on it, but its not natural to me.

As for being the "parent."  I hope my kids have more respect for the position than I did.

on Feb 29, 2008

Up until that point I asked my friends, "What is so wonderful about having a kid that you want to repeat it?" heh

Well at least you thought about it.  I didn't.  It just sort of happened.  No planning really for any of them.....well maybe David for that one last try at a girl.  Didn't work. 

One of the members of the board of education...well her home was busted by the cops for underage drinking and drug use while she was not there.

My guess is this person was trying to be popular....hip or whatever to the younger crowd.  It never works.  Usually the kids deep down know this is wrong and usually lose respect for this person who's trying so hard to be popular with the kids.  We've had this sort of thing happened up in Maine as well.  Goes on all the time and the parents get busted quite often.  Pretty stupid.  What are they teaching the kids?  Break the law?   What happens later when these same kids come by and steal from you to buy more booze/drugs then what? 

Many of my friend's parents in hs had no problem buying alcohol for their kids. In fact the "I'd rather it happen here" argument was used

That's garbage.  I've heard that too regarding all sorts of issues.  In other words these parents are falling down on the job.  They're probably just as high as the kids.   I actually heard this comment from a Vice Prinicple (father of three kids) when I told him drugs were being dealt in the bathroom.  Well, basically he shrugged his shoulders and said...."what are you going to do?"  I said, quite loudly, SHUT THE BATHROOMS OR POST SOMEONE IN THERE.  My son had just been invited to buy drugs that day.  Heck, I'm not against porty potties if need be. 

What is sad? All the kids I know whose parents did this habitually, are all losers now. They don't contribute to society in any substantial way.

Yes seen that as well, lots.  Parents have no idea how important it is for them to not give in to every whim and desire and instead teach them the right way to live.  Quite often these kids are being set up for the rest of their lives.  Between 15-25 is where's it's all at.  This is the foundation for your grown-up years.  This is a very important 10 years that can dictate, quite often, how the rest of your life will be as this is the time where big mistakes can be very costly for later on.   I'm seeing this in our own extended family.  My boys' cousins (some of them) have been invited to drink as young as 16 and there's a huge diff between my boys and their cousins.  A big diff.   It's like the parents are setting the bar low for their kids. 

Of course he'd probably be totally grossed out that a woman in her 30's thinks he a cutie. buwhahahahaha

ha!  Not sure.  He likes all the attention.  He met a lady, in his estimation, that was like 70-80 who fawned all over him while he was waiting to talk to a singer at Liberty.  This singer usually gets all the attention from the girls of all ages and overheard this old lady telling David how handsome he was.  She kept saying "you are so cute."  The singer interrupted and pointed to Aly who was waiting nearby and told this lady that David already had a girlfriend.....LOL.  David loved it. 

on Feb 29, 2008
I hope my kids have more respect for the position than I did.


They will - but it will take a few years for them to finally admit it.
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