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Published on February 22, 2010 By Tova7 In Misc

This is just mental meandering, no real point....

I finish a Master’s in Public Administration in June.  Theoretically it is necessary for “higher administrative” levels of local or federal government, as well as starting up and maintaining not for profits.  I could go into why I went into this field, but that’s a topic better explored in another blog.  Suffice it to say, I believe government should be like the pipes in your house; unseen, small as possible, with the added benefit of making your life better or more convenient, and used at the owner’s discretion.

As part of my degree requirement, I’ve taken the opportunity to study and work with different levels of government over the last two years.  This covers a multitude of functions from economic re-development at the local level, to real estate analysis, GAO studies, neighborhood stabilization programs, etc.

One of my colleagues began a not for profit last year.  Ohio has a lot of abandoned homes, and in some places, those homes are historic.  Meaning, the wood work is hand carved, the chandeliers cut from real crystal, the stained glass windows each hand made, the doors solid oak, the wood floors in mint condition.  In short, these homes were abandoned for various reasons and left to rot.  My city has a demolition schedule for our historic districts, but destroying a home is expensive and the list is over 6 years out. 

Back to the not for profit.  My colleague made a deal with our city.  Using ex-cons and others, they go into these homes and “de-construct” them.  Essentially stripping the house down to the studs, taking everything from fire place mantels and light fixtures to their Re-Sale store, and selling the items for profit.  The profits pay the workers de-constructing as well as the store employees.  This has been a tremendous success.  People seem to love the idea of buying wooden floors from homes built in the 1800’s for the “super rich,” to put into their new homes today.  The same goes for things like door knobs, solid wood doors, and crown molding.

This is a win-win for everyone and once the house is stripped, its easily taken down.  When the lot is just a yard again, the city offers it to the neighbors on each side (usually for super cheap, maybe $500-$1000 for 1/4 to a 1/2 acre) to add to their own lot.  This ensures the “vacant” lot is maintained,  taxes can be collected, and it increases the buyer’s outdoor living space and property value.

Again, win-win.

My colleague’s not for profit is considered a “green job maker” by the federal government.  Therefore, it qualifies for certain grants right now under Obama’s Green Jobs Plan.

Recently I attended a next phase meeting and someone “big” in the “green jobs” market for the U.S. lectured.  I won’t name names, you probably wouldn’t know it anyway, but what I found fascinating was this:  green jobs are very very hard to define.

This professional told us that “it is extremely difficult to break into the green jobs industry unless you’re a technocrat (an inventor).”

This troubles me for a couple reasons on a professional level.

First, if green is so, well, GREEN (i.e., natural), why should it be so difficult to “break into?”  Second, there wasn’t a single person in the room who used the same definition for “green.”  Last, there are very few ideas and innovations at present in this field.  I don’t mean to imply there aren’t some fantastic energy saving ideas and inventions in the private sector, but there are few new ideas and innovations in administering them at the public level.

What I found particularly disturbing was the general acceptance that creating green jobs isn’t perfected, and that’s OK (we’re just kids in the sand box trying to figure out how things work).  Its going to cost millions, maybe billions before (and if) we ever come to agreement on how best to go about green jobs in the public sector, or if they are actually realistic, or if they’ll ever pay for themselves.  And if they NEVER pay for themselves, if they in fact cause job losses, that’s ok, because well….it’s “green.”

A lot of people don’t know this, but generally in the federal government, before a big new social policy is taken on, the government will attempt a pilot test, a test study.   For example, there are numerous pilot tests and social experiments that have both failed and showed success when it comes to housing low-income families.  Many were scrapped because they just didn’t work…or frankly, by the time  the pilot test was over, politics changed and congress wasn’t interested anymore.  Whatever the reason, we have an arsenal of programs that were pilot tested and shelved, never to be seen by the public at large.

As I listened to this group of administrators attempt to define green jobs, willing to spend millions in pursuit of it, I wondered.  Why can’t we have a pilot program for this?  Instead of making like Nike and just doing it.  Sure, its not a social program specifically, more economic-environmental, but still….

The implicit agreement among many public administrators that green jobs are “the future” and we will pay significant sums of money to pursue them….(so long as money is coming in from the feds, and not just unfunded mandates), life is good…or can be REALLY good if we can just figure out how to twist a job description into leafy greens. 

The reason it is so difficult to create green jobs in the public arena is because it is not designed, by definition or service, to produce any material thing.  Sure there are exceptions (I mentioned one above).  But generally the public arena is designed to serve the public.  Many not for profits are based on social issues, and trying to make them “green” (so they can qualify for grant $), seems like an activity in frustration to me.  (But maybe I just don’t get it.) 

So what is a green job in the public sector?  What do you think?

So far from what I’ve experienced, it depends on who you ask.  But the general vibe in the world of government/non-profits seems best summed up in the words of Justice Potter Stewart while ruling on obscenity/pornography,…. ummmm, “I know it when I see it.”

 

 

 

 

 

 


Comments
on Feb 22, 2010

 

on Feb 22, 2010

Interesting problem. The city I live in is well known for being "green" and very very liberal. But I couldn't honestly tell you exactly what specifically "green" decisions the city council made either. Green nonprofit businesses don't exist here, as far as I know. But I like the idea of debuilding old homes and using the materials - of course, 200 years isn't really THAT old (americans and their notion of antique is amusing - my former guestmom thought stuff from the 40ies was antique). There are projects lke biomass powerplants and windmills of course that are operated by the municipality and thus ensures independance from huge powercompanies. There are also very strict rules on wastewater disposal, recycling and so forth. 

I think a major pillar is also public transportation - the more you have the less people need their cars to get around inside the city.

There seems to be a very generous use of the prefix "green" in politics and policies. Most green policies deal with environmental issues. There is also cooperation (or dictation) by the EU on this matter http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/agriculture/environment/l28027_en.htm

 

on Feb 22, 2010

So where's the porn? Just the last sentance? Doh!

on Feb 22, 2010

 

on Feb 22, 2010

I think a major pillar is also public transportation - the more you have the less people need their cars to get around inside the city.

That works in Europe well, but not in the US as much.  It works well in big cities, but the rest of America is pretty spread out. 

Having said that, we're just about to get a "rail" system in Ohio, linking Columbus to Dayton to Cincinnati...(and linked to other rails in other states and into Canada later) while I personally like the idea of being able to attend Cincinnati events and not have to spend the night because I want a drink or two...it is hard to justify the hundreds of millions of dollars the federal gov is giving us to build it.  Especially since the people of this state voted down a rail system when it was last on the ballot.

It will take twice as long to take the train once its built, and once you get where you're going, you have to pay a taxi to finish the journey.  In the end (right now) its longer and more expensive than just driving.

I do believe its about two decades ahead of its time...once Cincinnati, Dayton, and Columbus grow bigger (and traffic is really bad) it'll make much more sense....right now tho...not so much.

on Feb 22, 2010

So where's the porn? Just the last sentance? Doh!

YUP!  hahahaha....sorry, I figured it'd be good for a peek.

And really, I bet if I think about it for a minute I could define porn as green....

on Feb 22, 2010

That works in Europe well, but not in the US as much. It works well in big cities, but the rest of America is pretty spread out.
I think the east coast has ay well developed public transportation system, and so do parts of California. I once took the train from Sacramento to San Francisco Air Port - they call it BART (made me think of the Simpsons lol - not the best epithet for a train system but it actually stands for Bay Area Regional Train.

I always forget just how HUGE the US is. I think Germany is large enough, it is possible to drive through it from one end diagonally to the other in one day. But you have states that are larger and alot more emptier. If a trainnetwork is built in an area, you obviously need city public transportation to follow up on that, otherwise there isn't much of an incentive to use it, especially not with the way american cities are spread out. But once that is established it is a very convenient way to travel. You don't have to drive, for one, and can use that time to do something like work, read a book, sleep or look out the window. It is much more stressfree than driving, no need to look for parkingspots - when I was there my american friends used to spend alot of time cruising around the parking lot in order to score the closest parking spot to wherever we wanted to go so that they wouldn't have to walk far. Ahem..

 

 

on Feb 23, 2010

Definition of "Green"?  It is the color I turn just before I hurl...and the use in our government has just about got me there.

I used to have a "green" job...then we switched to BDUs which were green and tan and black...heheheee.

on Feb 23, 2010

I used to have a "green" job...then we switched to BDUs which were green and tan and black...heheheee.

It's strange time BFD.  Strange times.  I like fiction, you know I really like it.  But I never believed I'd get to use that "creative" part of the brain in this field.  lol

used to spend alot of time cruising around the parking lot in order to score the closest parking spot to wherever we wanted to go so that they wouldn't have to walk far. Ahem..

 

I think the east coast has ay well developed public transportation system,

New York, DC, Baltimore, Philly do...but the inbetween and around areas are generally like the rest of the US. 

 

on Feb 23, 2010

Big Fat Daddy
Definition of "Green"? 

I always thought it was when I was looking at the latest high powered computer.

I used to have a "green" job...then we switched to BDUs which were green and tan and black...heheheee.

My definition of green is allowing more people to telecommute, to save on gas.  So where's my grant money?

on Feb 23, 2010

So where's my grant money?

Pfft.  If you can write one, it WILL COME. 

on Feb 23, 2010

How bout the mayor of DC.  He saved the planet by letting a quarter of his snow-removal sit idle while the nation's capitol was snowbound...isn't that reward worthy?  Think of all the diesel he saved...and all the gas from the cars that didn't even try to go to work.

on Feb 23, 2010


So where's my grant money?
Pfft.  If you can write one, it WILL COME. 

I not write gud.  You write, I do, we make money?

on Feb 24, 2010

I not write gud. You write, I do, we make money?

LOL

I am taking Grant Writing next quarter, sorry.

How bout the mayor of DC. He saved the planet by letting a quarter of his snow-removal sit idle while the nation's capitol was snowbound...isn't that reward worthy? Think of all the diesel he saved...and all the gas from the cars that didn't even try to go to work.

Sounds like the next Nobel Peace Prize winner to me.