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The Orchard
Published on August 20, 2007 By Tova7 In Religion

We love you.  We believe everything Jesus says, so we might not agree with everything you choose in your life (you don’t need our approval anyway) ...but you are still family.  We trust God to convict you of sin; it is not our place to condemn you for it.  Everybody is in a different place on the path and accountable to God.  We path walkers are family, despite sin, despite human foibles, we love each other, help each other.  Come as you are.  You don’t have to pretend with family.

 

I started to respond to Gid’s article https://forums.joeuser.com/?FoRumID=65&AID=160644#1285537, but it was too long so I decided to write about my experience here.

 

I attended a church while visiting a friend in Tupelo Mississippi.  It's called The Orchard.  Technically they are under the United Methodist Church, but very loosely.  There are several things they teach at the church from scripture which is in direct opposition to UMC doctrine.  For example, they believe once sealed, always sealed...and UMC doctrine says otherwise.  (But doctrine isn’t the point of this article.)

 

This is a "come as you are" church.  People wear shorts and flip flops, some dress up; everyone comes as they are comfortable.  They are known in town, and usually with a fair amount of disdain, as the church who "will take anyone."  Heh.

 

They don’t push membership or giving.  They trust God to lead each person in those areas.  (It must be working because they are huge and not wanting for money.)

 

When I walked into the sanctuary for the first time, there was a band on stage playing Aerosmith's "Living on the edge."  It was rocking.

 

There are stations all around the sanctuary with food and beverages.  People eat and drink *gasp* throughout the service if they wish.  It gives a picnic/fellowship/revival feel to the service.

 

I saw people from every walk of life.  Some were tattooed and in leather with multiple piercings, some were suburbanites, some were dressed in business attire, some families, etc.

 

It actually wasn’t the colorful assortment of people I noticed first.

 

It was the atmosphere.

 

Love.

 

Acceptance.

 

Family.

 

There were probably a thousand people in this large hall, mingling, laughing, socializing, eating, GLAD TO BE THERE.  Happy to be brought together by this one thing they all have in common.

 

I grew most of my faith in the Baptist Church, not just one specific church, but many across this country and abroad.  The rules might differ a little but once I learned the basics I was fairly safe from serious faux paus in the denomination.

 

For instance, people whispered in the sanctuary out of respect/fear of the Lord.  Eating was certainly not something we did in the “holy of holies.”  (Now of course that is a Jewish term for the temple and not a Baptist one, but it is an association I mentally made often.)   You wore only your very BEST, because God expected our first and best.  Baptism is only full immersion, anything less really doesn’t count.  If someone smokes, they never ever do it at church or intentionally let people know about their habit, etc.

 

There is nothing wrong with worshiping this way.  I believe each denomination has a place in the body.  I believe God can be just as present in a conservative Baptist Church as He is in a place like The Orchard.

 

As I watched the people of The Orchard.  I didn’t see anyone “tense” and afraid others were looking at them.  I thought to myself, once the service starts this will be chaos.  What with people eating, drinking, laughing, talking.

 

I was wrong.

 

Once the service started, most people were done eating.  They were on their feet, voices raised in unison, worshiping.  Multiple pierced, hair to his butt looking man, standing beside suburban mom and husband, agreeing in worship Jesus is Lord.  I hesitate to even put this in words because it looks so very corny on paper.  But it is what it is.

 

After a lot of praise and worship, the sermon started.  I expected it to be a feel good message (light use of scripture) because how can a sermon please everyone from all those different walks of life?

 

I was wrong about that too.  Shocking I tell ya!

 

The minister opened his Bible and preached directly from the scriptures.  And it was good.  Not good in an entertainment sort of way.  Good in the “And God said it is good,” kind of way.

 

The man preached and seemed to trust the Holy Spirit to do any convicting that needed done.  He wasn’t so much leading the service as co-leading with the Spirit.  He gave the message and left the rest to God.

 

As I left the cool sanctuary of the church and walked out into the scorching humid Mississippi summer, I longed for a place like this close to my home.

 

A place where belief is the only common denominator that counts.  No matter who you are, where you are on the path, what you are, you are family.

 

Come as you are.


Comments
on Aug 20, 2007
"As I left the cool sanctuary of the church and walked out into the scorching humid Mississippi summer, I longed for a place like this close to my home."

Home is where your heart is. Move your house closer to the church.
on Aug 20, 2007
It sounds like my church except for the eating part. I love churches that are open and loving and all are welcomed.
on Aug 20, 2007

It sounds like my church except for the eating part

hahaha.  If someone woulda told me about eating in the sanctuary, anything besides communion, well I did most of my growing in the Baptist church so I probably would have scoffed.  But then when I think about Jesus.  He fed people while he talked to them didn't He?  There is something to be said for dropping barriers and enjoying a picnic kinda vibe.

I found some comfort there when it was needed the most

Good.  I think The Orchard reaches out to people and embraces them, flaws and all.  They don't compromise God's word, they just don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Then again, there are Christians who turn their noses up at this sort of 'mega-church', superior in their snobbery, deeming it too 'commercial.'

Yeah, I see that.  But I found it authentic, less canned than other churches I've attended where the only thing that changes is the title of the sermon.

Home is where your heart is. Move your house closer to the church

I'd love to live in Tupelo.  It is a beautiful city, lots of history, lots of brick.  Just the right size.  The churches I find around here are too entrenched in their way of doing things.  That's probably why we don't have any really "growing" churches in this area.

 

on Aug 20, 2007

I miss you, Tova.

Thanks Sabrina.  That means a lot to me.  My oldest is back to school starting tomorrow and my youngest not too far behind....I should be around a little more (crosses fingers).  I don't want to jinx it.  Heh.

What happened to Joe?

on Aug 20, 2007
Then again, there are Christians who turn their noses up at this sort of 'mega-church', superior in their snobbery, deeming it too 'commercial.'


Because we're afraid. It is easier to stick to tradition, including what the Christian should look like.

I pray that a little of this kind of acceptance will seep through the whole of Christianity.

There is definitely a culture of middle class/upper class churches. Unfortunately this culture gets carried overseas where it usually clashes even more with the situation there. If only we could all get outside our box and discover that God's word is not the same as "the way we've always done it."
on Aug 21, 2007
Because we're afraid. It is easier to stick to tradition, including what the Christian should look like.


I think you're on to something here.

I see a whole generation of "unchurched" people in this country. People who haven't grown up in the church. I know myself there are times when I haven't gone to church because I "didn't have anything to wear."

Lame?

Probably. But I knew (but was unwilling to admit at the time) other people would give me "the look." I wouldn't be received warmly because I was flaunting the unwritten rules of that church.

And what's really bad is every person in the church would say if asked individually..."Don't worry about what to wear. Just come."

Yet as a group I would be censured if I dared wear jeans to church.

Yeah, personally, when the motions get in the way of the message, get rid of the motions, not the message.

on Aug 21, 2007
I'm not quite sure what brought this one on, (he's deleted everything and split like this a couple of times now) but he's killed off 'Shovelheat' for good, and says that when and if he returns to JU, it will be under another persona.


Wow. I hope everything is ok.

I miss his writing. Reading Joe was like sitting on the front porch, on a beautiful 76 degree day, low humidity, and chatting with a friend.

The man has talent!
on Aug 21, 2007
But I knew (but was unwilling to admit at the time) other people would give me "the look." I wouldn't be received warmly because I was flaunting the unwritten rules of that church.

And what's really bad is every person in the church would say if asked individually..."Don't worry about what to wear. Just come."


I guess the only thing we can really do is change ourselves, and gently challenge the general perceptions. Things are changing slowly, too slowly, but we can do our little part to change our little corner.
on Aug 22, 2007

I guess the only thing we can really do is change ourselves, and gently challenge the general perceptions.

Good advice.

I KNOW my grand parents wouldn't be comfortable in a church like The Orchard.  I also know they consider their form of worship superior, better, more worthy of God.

That's why I think people tend to dress for other PEOPLE in the church, not for God.  How many people dress up to sit in their prayer closet?  When I pray and worship in my pjs, is that offensive to God?

No.

And I always wondered....what constitutes "best" when it comes to clothes?  Expense?  Style?  Having certain clothes we only wear to church?  Like the priests in the OT?  Didn't they dress because they were going to God's house?  Because at that time the HS wasn't dwelling in the hearts of believers.  Aren't we God's house now?  Should I never get dirty?  Should I always wear my "best?"

If my "best" is my wedding dress.  Do I wear that to church every Sunday?  What if my best is a mink coat?  Do I wear that even in the summer?

If I have to define "best" in my wardrobe, its the clothes that are a reflection of me.  Clean and casual.

Do I think its important to respect and honor God?

Yes.

Honor and respect are heart issues, not clothing ones.

on Aug 22, 2007
The Orchard sounds like a wonderful place to be! It's a pity many churches can't be like that! I hope you do get to be around more often Tonya. I understand about the kids and all, it does get busy from time to time for me too. It's good to read you!
on Sep 03, 2007
I LOVE this! I'd definitely be comfortable there.
on Sep 03, 2007
It's good to read you!


Thanks Forever. I am try doing some catching up..then hopefully will be back more.

I'd definitely be comfortable there.


That was the wonderful thing Angela. I think everyone was comfortable. I loved it.