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Published on September 11, 2007 By Tova7 In Current Events

Yesterday, I was listening to talk radio, Glenn Beck, in the van.

 

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First, I am not a huge fan of Mr. Beck’s alarmist tendencies.  He is also way too sarcastic for my taste.  Sarcasm is ok peppered in with witty banter.  What Mr. Beck doesn’t seem to understand …..sarcasm ISN’T witty banner.

 

He was going off on how fat Brittany Spears looked at the MTV awards.  Personally, I didn’t think she looked bad, especially post two children.  But, whatever.  Obviously Mr. Beck thought she was a hog.

 

I started to turn the dial (oops showing my age), er, I started to push the button to change station when one of his teasers for the next hour caught my attention.  Words like terrorists, school buses, schools, children, grabbed my immediate attention while in the back of my head I realized those words shouldn’t be together in the same sentence.

 

I listened to the next hour, knowing I’d regret it, knowing Mr. Beck was going to “alarm” me.  After all he is one of those people who doesn’t scream the sky is falling….only talks about the probability it will fall (sarcastically of course), what will happen, and how at the end of the day he’s an optimist.  Huh?

 

Here is what I learned.  Thousands of school bus radios were stolen on the west coast.  Seventeen school buses in Texas are missing (private school buses).  There are reports from various districts around the country of “foreign nationals” (pc for Muslim men) buying up old school buses and applying for drivers jobs.

 

It is Mr Beck’s assertion that these things are linked.  The sky isn’t falling because he can’t prove the link, but the probability of it falling is pretty great.

 

He talked about a terrorist plan of action.  I wasn’t clear on WHOSE plan it is supposed to be.  His hypothetical, a gov source, whatever.  He talked a lot about not being able to talk about it.

 

The jist is this….Terrorists are getting the buses to get close to or inside schools to blow them up.  Maybe they are using them to practice driving to get bus driving jobs; maybe they will paint them with a schools name and do the normal route, then show up at the school.  Mr. Beck says if your child’s school is “taken over” by terrorists, DO NOT GO TO THE SCHOOL, because the terrorists may plant crowd pleasers.  (My name for secondary bombs aimed at by standers and emergency workers.)

 

There is more to this, to be aired today, or read about on his website.

 

It worked.

 

I was alarmed.

 

Knew it would happen.

 

I called my husband at work and told him about it.  I called my aunt who drove a school bus forever to ask about it.  She told me while the bus driver could keep the front doors closed to prevent someone from coming on the bus, the back door is unlocked.  (It has to be for emergency use.)  So if the driver is distracted at the front of the bus, anyone could enter through the back.

 

I don’t know if the missing buses, radios, and increased “foreign national” interest in school bus driving across the country are connected…..but it might be.  When it comes to my kids, “might” is too much of a chance for me to ignore.

 

I am calling the transportation office today to check on protocol for school bus hijacking.  Is there anything?

 

Because I was alarmed, when my 11 year old came home from school we talked.  I asked him, “What would you do if an angry man got on the school bus and took it over?”

 

He said, “I’d do whatever they said.”

 

I said, “What would you do if someone threw a grenade on the bus?”

 

He said, “Get off as fast as I could, anyway I could.”

 

I said, “That’s what I want you to do if anyone ever takes control of the bus.  I want you to get off.  Even if that means leaving your back pack, standing on a seat, and diving through a window.  But if you can, try to make it out the back door, even if the bus is moving.  Treat the hijacker like a live bomb that’s about to explode no matter what he says.  (Some say the hijackers on the planes of 9/11 told everyone they were safe, they wouldn’t be harmed, so they could control the passengers.) And if you can’t escape then get the bigger kids together and FIGHT.”

 

We talked about different situations at school.  I told him when they go into lock down to keep his ears peeled (since they don’t tell if it’s a drill or not in junior high).  If he hears screaming, or shooting, climb out a window, just GET OUT.  If he can’t do that (some rooms have no windows), then get a bunch of kids, armed with pens and scissors and wait beside the door.  When that door is forceably opened (protocol has teachers pulling blinds on doors and locking them) attack together.

 

We talked for a good hour or more about it.  And the whole time I was thinking, this is like a Die Hard movie gone bad.  Except I’m asking an 11 year old to be Bruce Willis.

 

Are they coming for our kids?  Is this all related to some big plot or just random coincidence?  It seems extra stupid….one way to unite this country for blood is to start killing our children.  I believe it would push even the most passive among us into battle mode.

 

Is this going to happen?

 

I don’t know.  Glenn Beck doesn’t know.  The only people who might know, aren’t talking.

 

All I can do as a parent is give my child as much self defense information as possible and hope if it happens, it doesn’t happen here.  Selfish?  Yeah, it is.  But I get that way about my kids.

 

Do your kids ride the bus?  Do they go to school?  Have you talked to them about “what if?”

 

If terrorists come for your child or their school, will your child fight?  Escape?  Or be led like a sheep to slaughter?

 

It is an alarming thought.


Comments
on Sep 11, 2007
I can say that the chance is very slim...much like an actual terrorist showing up to your house and killing you there. Killing a bunch of children on a schoolbus is hopefully too sadistic even for them....but in Vietnam they did rig small children with explosives...so it's not like it's impossible.

~Zoo
on Sep 11, 2007
The answer to your headline is - they already have.  A better question would be "are they targeting our children".  To that we could only assume the answer, as you indicated, they are not talking.
on Sep 11, 2007
It is an alarming thought and no I have not discussed any scenario such as that in an emergency on the bus. We have discussed in case of fire or emergency who the point of contact is and where to meet.

It is something that I would hate to think about even happening. My 13 year old son is the only one who takes a school bus. My 5 year old I drop off and pick up. I hate this feeling of alarm and fear that are being fostered by people like Mr. Beck.

I hate the fact that our government won't say what is true, real or unreal just because we would all go off-cock like this. I certainly hope that none of this is true, that they are targeting our kids, but I will definitely go over our emergency plans with my kids to make sure they remember what to do.
on Sep 11, 2007
If anything is guaranteed to "unify" all Americans - and the rest of the Western World along with them - in the "War on Terror", it would certainly be blowing up several bus loads of kids. Twisted wackos these guys are, but their "leadership" is not stupid, it would unleash abject fury in the US on scale far bigger than 9/11, and probably not seen since Pearl Harbour, and they know it.

For all the rhetoric about "muslims", most in Arab Countries would in any case react with abject fury at such an attack. Every Culture has lines in the sand beyond which it will not go, and a deliberate pre-meditated attack on children in that manner is a big no-no, the AQ leadership would not risk the inevitable huge backlash in the Arab world.
on Sep 11, 2007

Every Culture has lines in the sand beyond which it will not go, and a deliberate pre-meditated attack on children in that manner is a big no-no, the AQ leadership would not risk the inevitable huge backlash in the Arab world.

I question that in this case seeing how children are acceptable colateral in Israel.

on Sep 12, 2007
I question that in this case seeing how children are acceptable colateral in Israel.


Are they?
on Sep 12, 2007
I question that in this case seeing how children are acceptable colateral in Israel.


Are they?


If we are to beleive the stories of the bombings coming from that corner of the world, yes. If we see those stories as Israeli Propaganda, then there is no more to say on the subject since it is all a matter of opinion.
on Sep 12, 2007

I hate the fact that our government won't say what is true, real or unreal just because we would all go off-cock like this. I certainly hope that none of this is true, that they are targeting our kids, but I will definitely go over our emergency plans with my kids to make sure they remember what to do.

Me too Donna.  True or not..the fact Mr Beck is talking about it on the radio means it COULD be a seed planted in the mind of a terrorist.  That is why I went over escape procedures with my son.  I do tend to be overly prepared...just a character trait.  For example when I lived in Alaska....the North Korean nut job was saying his nukes could reach Alaska and California.  I made a plan of action (if we survived the blast) on how best to get out of the state when the few roads were impassable.

Maybe its paranoia.  But something I learned while living in Alaska (most times alone with my kids).  As Americans we've become too dependent on the gov to protect us from EVERYTHING.  I remember the moment I realized....I am responsible for the lives of my entire family.  Me.  I can't call anyone for help, can't expect someone to warn me about danger.  I have to plan, and be prepared.  I learned if I didn't pack an emergency kit, and know how to use it well, my kids could die, I could die, all for lack of help.  There were places we went and didn't see another living soul, or even another vehicle for days.

The people of Katrina learned the lesson as well.  If you don't protect yourself and your family, then you are left with whatever someone else can give you.  And sometimes that's nothing.  The chances of a terrorist entering my son's school may be slim...but it is conceivable and therefore something I can do something about...even if its just making a plan.

they already have

What do you mean exactly?

can say that the chance is very slim...much like an actual terrorist showing up to your house and killing you there

I don't know Zoo...seems to me people said pretty much the same thing before 9/11.  And if I knew for a fact terrorists cells were studying my type of home, buying models just like it, and applying for jobs that would bring them into my home (the model they studied) I'd be alarmed.  Wouldn't you?

 

on Sep 12, 2007

For all the rhetoric about "muslims", most in Arab Countries would in any case react with abject fury at such an attack. Every Culture has lines in the sand beyond which it will not go, and a deliberate pre-meditated attack on children in that manner is a big no-no, the AQ leadership would not risk the inevitable huge backlash in the Arab world.

I hope that's true.  But since the goal of the act is to produce emotions of fear....what better target than our children?  Most people are naturally protective of kids....and of life.  That is why terrorism is such a perversion.  It doesn't honor life, only death.

I don't think the rest of the Arab world would even care.  Kinda like if someone exploded a bomb in an Egyptian school.  We'd read about it, say how horrible it is, maybe throw some money at it, then get on with the rest of our day.

The Arab world didn't get up in arms over the murders on 9/11.  There were kids on those plans too.  But that's not the point.  If they can justify murder on 9/11 then its not that far a jump to justifying it for kids.

But maybe I am a too pessimistic.

on Sep 12, 2007

they already have

What do you mean exactly?

They cared not for who was on the planes or in the buildings, including whether children were there.  To them, to quote Skimmerhorn, nits grow into lice.

on Sep 12, 2007
nits grow into lice.


Yuk, but true I guess. Thanks for the clarification. I thought maybe you knew something I didn't...heh.
on Sep 13, 2007
There is also the possibility that the Beslan school rape/massacre was actually a test run by AQ, not "Chechen separatists" as the Russian government characterized them. There has certainly been a pattern of AQ test operations followed by big operations over the last twenty years.

I'm less worried about them blowing up buses (though that thought is horrible enough) than I am about them using buses to waltz onto school property unchallenged with a crew of 20 terrorists who then go Columbine on the whole school, but only after raping a bunch of the girls. Who could pick out the bus that is "wrong" from all the legitimate buses? The sad thing is our society has done the terrorists a favor by making many of our schools, especially middle schools, more like small impenetrable prisons than schools - once inside, securing the perimiter would be a piece of cake for them because they are designed to lock people in (at least here in Arizona). There is no reason to believe that if they considered such an attack, that they wouldn't consider coordinating simultaneous attacks on multiple schools around the country, especially more remote or rural schools where they would have more time to secure the grounds before arrival of any "first responders." And actual architectural plans of specific US schools have reportedly been found at AQ training facilities that have been raided.

It is almost too scary for words, but not beyond belief, given the lack of value assigned to "infidels," no matter the age, not to mention 9/11 itself.
on Sep 14, 2007
The sad thing is our society has done the terrorists a favor by making many of our schools, especially middle schools, more like small impenetrable prisons than schools - once inside, securing the perimiter would be a piece of cake for them because they are designed to lock people in


Luckily? We have really old school buildings. (Now I will stop complaining about them so much, heh.) That's why I told my son to get out. I don't care what the teachers say. If someone takes over the school, they are there to kill kids. Get out! I told my son to look at every classroom and think of ways to get out of them. Of course the rooms with no windows...well, they are like little prison cells aren't they?

And actual architectural plans of specific US schools have reportedly been found at AQ training facilities that have been raided.


That freaks me out, and makes me so incredibly angry at the same time.

The terrorists have even named this event, this taking over schools and killing our children...they call it "The Perfect Day."