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Foreign Policy
Published on October 22, 2012 By Tova7 In Politics

Tonight is the third, and final (thank goodness!) debate.

Usually, I wait until after to review it... but since this is the last one wanted to mix it up a little bit.

I'm curious about three things:

1.  What do you think should be discussed tonight?

2.  Is there something either candidate can say that might make them appear "the winner?"

3.  What the hell are we doing about last month's terrorist attack?  How did that even happen??

I have my own ideas of course.  This may end up being the most interesting debate simply because it's last.  And, how in the world do you talk about foreign policy for 90 minutes??  Correction, how in the world do you talk about BOs foreign policy for 90 minutes?  It appears non-existent!

I wonder if perhaps there will be plenty of other topics infused into this conversation....and who will do the infusing.

Here is what I don't want to see:

1.  The bickering back and forth.  While it satisfies the inner caveman (or woman!) it doesn't really lend itself to substantial discourse.  Which may be exactly why it is employed.  Hopefully this will be minimized since BO has a record and Mitt doesn't. 

2.  The moderator, Bob Shieffer, inserting himself into the parlay. 

He says this debate will be about:

"how dangerous the world is in which we live...Iran's  nuclear intentions, the bloody crackdown in Syria, economic angst in Europe,  security concerns in Afghanistan, China's growing power -- all that and more are  on the agenda."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/22/obama-romney-look-for-foreign-policy-edge-in-final-debate/#ixzz2A1j6TfAP

We'll see.

Reporters and anchors by nature tend to be camera hogs.  Hopefully Bob won't operate under the false impression we care what he thinks.  

Ok, I reserve the opportunity to update after the debate.  But not right after.  I like to let things brew over-night.

T


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on Oct 22, 2012

on Oct 22, 2012

Should be interesting. Not sure how Obama's policy is viewed favorably when he bows and bends before everyone and delivers dangerously naive and provocative speeches that unravel the Mid East such as Cairo 2003. With the Muslim Bros installed in Egypt, remind me what part of "Mubarak must step down" was a good idea. The entire ME burning, Islamic militancy on the rise, deadly massacres in Syria, the blind sheiks picture on giant billboards throughout Egypt, Israel completely abandoned and ignored, Libya a complete debacle ending in the deaths of 4 Americans who were abandoned at their posts, and it just goes on and on, especially in Afghanistan with the damning report by Lara Logan on how the Taliban is on the rise. Another thing is a former Obama adviser who openly calls Obamas policy "a mess". Lets see how it goes. I would expect Obama to act like Biden in this one attempting to silence Romney as much as possible so that people who weren't paying attention don't learn the realities.

on Oct 22, 2012

Anthony R
Should be interesting. Not sure how Obama's policy is viewed favorably when he bows and bends before everyone and delivers dangerously naive and provocative speeches that unravel the Mid East such as Cairo 2003. With the Muslim Bros installed in Egypt, remind me what part of "Mubarak must step down" was a good idea. The entire ME burning, Islamic militancy on the rise, deadly massacres in Syria, the blind sheiks picture on giant billboards throughout Egypt, Israel completely abandoned and ignored, Libya a complete debacle ending in the deaths of 4 Americans who were abandoned at their posts, and it just goes on and on, especially in Afghanistan with the damning report by Lara Logan on how the Taliban is on the rise. Another thing is a former Obama adviser who openly calls Obamas policy "a mess". Lets see how it goes. I would expect Obama to act like Biden in this one attempting to silence Romney as much as possible so that people who weren't paying attention don't learn the realities.

We'll see if B.S. (love those initials, bwuahahaa) will moderate this well.  His brother, or BIL was an ambassador under George W.  Perhaps he will give the recent events with Ambassador Stevens the gravitas it deserves.

on Oct 23, 2012

Of the three debates, last night was the least informative.

A foreign policy debate that didn't discuss the details of the Libya attack.  How is that a debate?  Really?

Romney's camp broadcasted before the debate that he was going to play it cool and presidential.  While he was getting his butt kicked at the beginning of the debate, I thought it wasn't working for him.  But toward the middle, when BO's one-liners started getting tired, my opinion changed.

BO was like a kid determined to pick a fight with someone who just wasn't going to play the game.  The attacks seemed desperate to me at the beginning, annoyingly trite by the middle, and down-right yawn inducing by the end.

I kept seeing BO practicing those one-liners in the mirror..heh.

When talking about Iran, Romney attacked Iran.  When talking about Iran, Obama attacked Romney.  lol

So I guess cool and presidential worked for Romney.  Though I wouldn't say he won the debate.  I wouldn't say BO won either.

As for BOs snarkiness.  I don't mind it.  It is so very telling.  In all 3 debates Romney never stooped to snarky condescension.  While it appealed to Obama-bots I think it gave us a glimpse of how BO really feels about people who don't agree with him. 

The election can't come soon enough. 

Ugh.

 

on Oct 23, 2012

Barack Obama, who do you think  you are?

You're an employee of the United States of America, and you're acting unprofessional on national television.

You do realize that the people are about to decide whether or not to renew your contract, right?

on Oct 23, 2012

Jythier
Barack Obama, who do you think you are?
You're an employee of the United States of America, and you're acting unprofessional on national television.
You do realize that the people are about to decide whether or not to renew your contract, right?

I dunno.  A lot of the Demmies liked his attitude.  At least the ones I know.

They've also nicknamed Romney Mittens...which I find strangely appealing....the word conjures images of warm, protective, good in a snow ball fight, type images.

on Oct 23, 2012

Tova7
Quoting Jythier, reply 5Barack Obama, who do you think you are?
You're an employee of the United States of America, and you're acting unprofessional on national television.
You do realize that the people are about to decide whether or not to renew your contract, right?

I dunno.  A lot of the Demmies liked his attitude.  At least the ones I know.

They've also nicknamed Romney Mittens...which I find strangely appealing....the word conjures images of warm, protective, good in a snow ball fight, type pics.

on Oct 23, 2012

I followed a couple of live blogs again and was a little disappointed that Mitt declined to at least swing at several hanging curve balls he could easily have launched out of the park, but then I'm not running for President.  I believe this was a conscious decision on his part to avoid humiliating our sitting President, perhaps because he could be relied upon to humiliate himself with his own behavior, which turned out to be the case from what I've read.  There was also the inherent disadvantage of not being privy to classified material - Obama could come back with anything, true or not, and there would be no way to reliably rebut him.  So, in that sense, it was probably the smart play, particularly in light of the way the press played the Crowley debacle.

I felt beforehand that the FP debate would have no impact on Mitt's momentum as long has he made no significant stumbles.  Despite the temptation and despite what we already know, there wasn't a good risk/reward ratio in throwing the easy punches, on Benghazi in particular, this close to the election, without sufficient time to turn around any negative impacts.  Had BO made any new justifying claims, you know the lamestreams would have accepted them uncritically and continued to cover for him to the end.  And had Mitt stumbled, which he clearly did not, they would have been on it like flies on dogshit.

That all they can muster post-debate are 'racism' and ad hominems tells you who really won.

on Oct 23, 2012

Anybody going to watch debate #4, tonight at 9pm, streaming live with Larry King moderating?

on Oct 23, 2012

For my money, Romney won the election with his Al Smith dinner speech.  It was lethally funny.

Or hilariously lethal, however you want to view it.

on Oct 23, 2012

Jythier
Anybody going to watch debate #4, tonight at 9pm, streaming live with Larry King moderating?

Buwhahaha.  Yeah, I'll hold my breaf for that one

Daiwa
I felt beforehand that the FP debate would have no impact on Mitt's momentum as long has he made no significant stumbles. Despite the temptation and despite what we already know, there wasn't a good risk/reward ratio in throwing the easy punches, on Benghazi in particular, this close to the election, without sufficient time to turn around any negative impacts. Had BO made any new justifying claims, you know the lamestreams would have accepted them uncritically and continued to cover for him to the end. And had Mitt stumbled, which he clearly did not, they would have been on it like flies on dogshit.
That all they can muster post-debate are 'racism' and ad hominems tells you who really won.

Very insightful D.

on Oct 23, 2012

For my money, Romney won the election with his Al Smith dinner speech. It was lethally funny.

Yeah, I actually think the dinner helped them know each other a little better....BO seemed a little warmer toward Romney before the 3rd debate...but maybe I just saw what I wanted to see.

Remember how I predicted riots and accusations of a "stolen" election if BO loses?  Well, the ground work has begun.

http://www.infowars.com/obama-supporters-continue-threats-to-riot-assassinate-romney/

~sigh~  I can't wait for this to be over.  I would really like our country to get over BO and move on with getting a handle on this debt.

on Oct 24, 2012

For my money, Romney won the election with his Al Smith dinner speech. It was lethally funny.

Or hilariously lethal, however you want to view it.

I think it happened at the first debate. That event was pivotal. As Charles K said, Romney came out swinging and scored a first round KO destroying millions of dollars worth of negative advertising. So the whole Obama strategy of "kill Romney" went up in smoke. Obama is becoming increasingly shrill and desperate and its extremely unattractive, especially to women. I think Obama has lost the election and he knows it. If Obama thought his chances were good, he wouldn't be risking his personal likability with all this sarcasm, angry looks, and childish insults. Romney was smart not to get into the weeds of the Libya debacle as it probably wont decide the election anyway, and its an extremely complicated series of events that probably won't be easy for an average voter to understand. I'm not sure how Obama hopes to win the election when he tells Romney that Navy ships are as outdated as bayonets and horses when he desperately needs to carry a ship building swing state like Virginia. So Obama hurt himself more than anything at the final debate, but the media will tell us "Obama won".

on Oct 24, 2012

I'd say he became electable with the first debate, and won the election with the Smith dinner speech.  But, we're splittin' hairs & I mostly agree.

As for the weeds of the Libya debacle, I agree, and I think the Crowley kerfuffle actually inured to Romney's benefit.  He was smart to just let it marinate in the background.

on Oct 26, 2012

As for the weeds of the Libya debacle, I agree, and I think the Crowley kerfuffle actually inured to Romney's benefit. He was smart to just let it marinate in the background.

Yeah, I wonder though if we'll ever know if that was an actual strategy, or more happenstance.

Anthony R
I'm not sure how Obama hopes to win the election when he tells Romney that Navy ships are as outdated as bayonets and horses when he desperately needs to carry a ship building swing state like Virginia. So Obama hurt himself more than anything at the final debate, but the media will tell us "Obama won".

Gotta love when sarcasm turns around and bites.

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