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Published on October 17, 2012 By Tova7 In Politics

Last night, I didn't hear anything unexpected between the two candidates.

The news maker?  Candy Crowley backing up the president during the debate, and then pulling a mea culpa after.  But personally I wasn't shocked by that.  I think Americans should expect it.  She said before millions BO was right, Romney wrong.  Then AFTER the debate said she erred.  Oops.

Kind of like running a front page story with errors, and putting the correction in the obits two weeks later.

I'm sure it is different for everyone, but the one thing that really disturbed me?  BO's answers on Libya.

On a cerebral level I understood he skipped national security briefings to play basketball, or golf, or go to fund raisers.  And I recognize Jimmy Carter (arguably the worst president ever until now) didn't leave the white house during the hostage crisis....not to golf at least...

But last night I saw BO's face as he spoke about it.  There was no passion, no burning desire to make things right.  Honestly, I don't think he believes it's a big deal.

Sure, he tried to scold Romney about playing politics...but it came across as rehearsed, insincere (knowing what he did during and after the attacks), and frankly SCARY.

Makes me wonder how he would have handled 9-11 the first go round.  We'd probably still be talking about it.  (Between fund raising and basketball games of course.)

The soft ball questions about birth control and guns.  Come on.  Really?  What the hell were those people thinking?  Who approved these stupid questions? 

Ugh.

All in all, I didn't learn anything new.  And frankly, I'd like my 90 minutes back now.

 


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on Oct 17, 2012

on Oct 17, 2012

Who the heck is Candy Crowley?

Why can't the moderators just let the candidates debate?  Obama could have said that he said it was a terrorist attack.  He'd be lying, then, instead of the moderator.

3 minutes is a lot of time when you're talking, and that's how much extra time she gave Obama, as well.

If you really believed in Obama's chances, you wouldn't need to cheat.

on Oct 17, 2012

Jythier
Who the heck is Candy Crowley?
Why can't the moderators just let the candidates debate? Obama could have said that he said it was a terrorist attack. He'd be lying, then, instead of the moderator.
3 minutes is a lot of time when you're talking, and that's how much extra time she gave Obama, as well.
If you really believed in Obama's chances, you wouldn't need to cheat.

As a former tv reporter, I can say in my experience it is easy to believe people like you and think your opinion matters when you're talking to a camera that can't talk back.  Go long enough without challenge, without hate mail, and it is very easy to just slide into the belief that you know more than everyone else...because HEY it is your job and people LISTEN to you.

(Until you meet someone in the grocery store who wants a piece of your butt or spends 30 minutes detailing your errors ... lol...but that's another story.)

Candy bought into her own hype.  She believed she had the right to interject herself into the debate, take sides, and America would love her for it.  (In my experience, most media types believe they're the sword arm of the "average joe" against gov, big business, any potential big enemy that a might crush a single individual.)  I'm sure she's fairly agog this morning at the backlash.  And horrified at the way her own CNN correspondents have thrown her under the bus. 

The first woman since 1992 to moderate, and she screwed up.  I know that shouldn't matter, but it does to me.  When you consider how many women are in the media, to go since 1992, 20 years, 4 election cycles, with no female moderator? 

She just made an excellent case for delaying it another 20 years.

Shesh. 

on Oct 17, 2012

Actually, in 4 years I hope they have a female moderator who is anxious to prove that they can do it right, and do so.

Too bad nobody asks the right questions about reproductive health for women.  Like why midwives aren't covered by insurance plans, and why nobody is doing anything about that.  That choice, you know, one that has nothing to do with killing babies, has been taken away in many places.  The choice of the location of birth, who is attending, etc. is attacked but the choice to destroy the life is okay.  I don't understand.  Anyway, what are these guys going to do about our economy being in the toilet?  Anything? 

on Oct 17, 2012

Tova7

Quoting Jythier, reply 2Who the heck is Candy Crowley?
Why can't the moderators just let the candidates debate? Obama could have said that he said it was a terrorist attack. He'd be lying, then, instead of the moderator.
3 minutes is a lot of time when you're talking, and that's how much extra time she gave Obama, as well.
If you really believed in Obama's chances, you wouldn't need to cheat.

As a former tv reporter, I can say in my experience it is easy to believe people like you and think your opinion matters when you're talking to a camera that can't talk back.  Go long enough without challenge, without hate mail, and it is very easy to just slide into the belief that you know more than everyone else...because HEY it is your job and people LISTEN to you.

(Until you meet someone in the grocery store who wants a piece of your butt or spends 30 minutes detailing your errors ... lol...but that's another story.)

Candy bought into her own hype.  She believed she had the right to interject herself into the debate, take sides, and America would love her for it.  (In my experience, most media types believe they're the sword arm of the "average joe" against gov, big business, any potential big enemy that a might crush a single individual.)  I'm sure she's fairly agog this morning at the backlash.  And horrified at the way her own CNN correspondents have thrown her under the bus. 

The first woman since 1992 to moderate, and she screwed up.  I know that shouldn't matter, but it does to me.  When you consider how many women are in the media, to go since 1992, 20 years, 4 election cycles, with no female moderator? 

She just made an excellent case for delaying it another 20 years.

Shesh. 

I felt that she was trying too hard... probably because of how well Martha Raddatz did in the VP debate...

Regardless

Debate 2

Obama couldn't have performed like this in the 1st debate, because he had no idea what bullshit Romney would be spewing.

Obama wins the election, unless something radical happens, like he punches a baby or something.

on Oct 17, 2012

Despite not liking Obama's policies, I doubt he would intentionally punch a baby in an election year.

on Oct 17, 2012

LORD-ORION
Obama wins the election, unless something radical happens, like he punches a baby or something.

Obama's done worse....

http://youtu.be/eILPwSOtXxI 

 

Go to 50 seconds and learn Obama's record on babies...

 

 

on Oct 17, 2012

The news maker?  Candy Crowley

Crowley had a chance and she blew it. Her liberal bias trumped neutrality.

 

 

on Oct 17, 2012

LORD-ORION
Obama wins the election, unless something radical happens, like he punches a baby or something.

I like an optimist!  But I hope you're wrong.  Four more years of this?  Seriously, even if Romney can't do anything about the economy, just a change in command will garner more confidence.  BO's face will forever be linked with debt and death. 

Jythier
Too bad nobody asks the right questions about reproductive health for women. Like why midwives aren't covered by insurance plans, and why nobody is doing anything about that. That choice, you know, one that has nothing to do with killing babies, has been taken away in many places. The choice of the location of birth, who is attending, etc. is attacked but the choice to destroy the life is okay.

Really great point Jyth!  And so true. 

on Oct 17, 2012

lulapilgrim
Crowley had a chance and she blew it. Her liberal bias trumped neutrality.

I don't think anyone was surprised....but you know I always hold out a little faith in the human race.

on Oct 17, 2012

Tova7
Quoting LORD-ORION, reply 5Obama wins the election, unless something radical happens, like he punches a baby or something.

I like an optimist!  But I hope you're wrong.  Four more years of this?  Seriously, even if Romney can't do anything about the economy, just a change in command will garner more confidence.  BO's face will forever be linked with debt and death. 

Quoting Jythier, reply 4Too bad nobody asks the right questions about reproductive health for women. Like why midwives aren't covered by insurance plans, and why nobody is doing anything about that. That choice, you know, one that has nothing to do with killing babies, has been taken away in many places. The choice of the location of birth, who is attending, etc. is attacked but the choice to destroy the life is okay.

Really great point Jyth!  And so true. 

 

I keep waiting for someone to tell me, "Wait, yes, that was totally addressed right here in Obamacare."  That's what I really want.  Then again, I still don't like his mandatory coverages that infringe upon business owner's religious rights.

on Oct 17, 2012

Monitored 3 live blogs of the debate rather than watch it & vomit.  Seemed to be more or less a draw, allowing for how Crowley crapped on Romney's responses (not just Libya, BTW) and kept throwing BO lifelines.  Her choice of questions was predictable, save for the one on Libya - even given that, the way it went down, hard to believe it wasn't telegraphed to BO's people beforehand.  Came off as way too convenient a setup, an attempt to give BO a shot at neutralizing the issue.  On that score, I think it failed.

on Oct 18, 2012

Obama slithered out of the debate without answering the Libya question on security and Candy Crowley who looks like the love child of Dudley Moore and Fred Gwynn helped him.

on Oct 18, 2012

Anthony R
Obama slithered out of the debate without answering the Libya question on security and Candy Crowley who looks like the love child of Dudley Moore and Fred Gwynn helped him.

Is it really relevant what Candy Crowley looks like?

on Oct 18, 2012

Jythier
Is it really relevant what Candy Crowley looks like?

Probably not, but it didn't stop me from doing it.

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