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Published on July 28, 2010 By Tova7 In Blogging

There I was; lying topless in a cotton gown that opened in the front, staring up at the off white ceiling, wondering how, at 41, I was in such a predicament.  After all, I work out, eat fairly well, take care of myself.

The doctor came in, along with the ultrasound tech, and one female chaperone.  (Though I always think its kind of funny when the female chaperone is nineteen, maybe twenty.)  Along with all the medical equipment humming in the background, and the rolling bed, the small room seemed more like a sardine can and less like a clinical setting with four of us stuffed inside.

The doctor dimmed the lights, wow-chikka-wow-wow, he was nice, pleasant.  We chatted and I thought, “hmm, maybe this won’t be so bad.”

The tech found “the spot” with the ultrasound machine in my right breast.  It took him maybe two seconds to find it.  The doctor took the ultrasound wand from the tech and lost the spot immediately.  I chalked the difference up to the fact that the tech did this every day.  It took the Dr several minutes to find it again.  Over the next ten minutes he found and alternately lost “the spot,” shooting a needle into the soft tissue of my breast, numbing it.

When the Dr took up the scalpel I asked him if this was his first time doing a core biopsy.  He thought about it and told me it wasn’t.  The fact he had to think about it concerned me.  Also the fact he hesitated before every action, almost like he was reading the procedure out of a book in his head, then following it with action.

Over the next two hours, my confidence dropped as the Dr found and lost the spot, had the tech put on sterile gloves and find it three more times, only to lose it as soon as he took the wand.  With scalpel in one hand, and ultrasound wand in the other, he cut into my flesh as warm blood pooled in a puddle beneath me.

Then he inserted the needle.  It is actually two needles, one inside of the other.  It’s job is to collect tissue, not fluid, so it is larger than a normal needle.  And when engaged, sounds a lot like a pneumatic drill.

Using the wand in one hand, the needle in another, he attempted to locate the spot and biopsy it.  Six times he engaged the needle, cutting flesh from the inside of my breast, pulling it out.  And six times the female tech leaned over my head, picked out the flesh from the needle with tweezers, lifted it in front of my face, and walked across the room to place it in the specimen dish.  (Why the specimen vile wasn’t next to me instead of across the room I don’t know.)

Once six samples were collected, the Dr inserted a titanium marker in my breast.  This shows future mammogram readers there was a biopsy performed there.

The female tech applied pressure to the wound for fifteen minutes, and the male tech applied tape.  To my breast.  While lying down.

I watched an interview once with a plastic surgeon.  His specialty?  Breast implants.  One of the best breast augmentation specialists in the country, the interviewer asked him what distinguished his breast work from others.  He laughed and said it was simple really.  Once the augmentation was inserted, he had the woman lifted to a sitting position in the operating room to ensure that when the breasts “fell” they were perfectly sized and even.  Obviously this is not common practice in plastic surgery or other medical procedures because this one step made his work superior to that of his peers.  In short, he understood that boobs move, and where they are when lying down is not where they are when sitting and standing up.

That lack of common sense in medical training, translated to tape gaping and being essentially useless in keeping the wound closed.

I left and was told to come back next week for the results.

Next week I came back.

The surgeon told me the biopsy Dr missed the lump.  MISSED IT!  He put the titanium marker in the wrong place.  And, in two months when I am healed, they want me to do it all over again.

Cancer may be the vehicle but time, incompetence, and sheer bad luck will be what ultimately decides my fate.

 


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on Jul 28, 2010

on Jul 28, 2010

I do not care if they call it Saintly incompetence!  It sucks!  Sorry for your travails.  I hope you get a different biopsy doctor.  And I will pray it is just a benign bump.

on Jul 28, 2010

Tova I'm sorry for your experience too. I hate the "lawsuit" mentality, but perhaps you should speak to a lawyer, and get the names and statements of all that were present. Most women worry about breast cancer and to put knowing off for two more months (on top of the pain and damage of the botched procedure) that is just plain reckless. I hope you recover quickly and it turns out to be nothing in the end.

on Jul 28, 2010

So sorry to hear about all this T.   I would definitely NOT go to that doctor again. 

If it's any consolation I have a friend who has "lumpy" breasts and not cancer.  But please keep us informed and in the meantime let's just pray that this lump disappears. 

I have a prayer meeting tonight.  I'm going to put your name on our list. 

 

 

on Jul 28, 2010

If it's any consolation I have a friend who has "lumpy" breasts and not cancer. But please keep us informed and in the meantime let's just pray that this lump disappears.

I don't tho. What I do have is thyroid (translates into hormonal) problems.  And most breast cancer is caused by hormonal problems. 

No one in my family has ever had it tho.  And I read 80% of lumps are benign.  So the odds are in my favor.  Even if the healthcare system isn't...lol.  Though what are the odds ya think of an ultrasound guided biopsy totally missing a lump the size of a marble?

Tova I'm sorry for your experience too. I hate the "lawsuit" mentality, but perhaps you should speak to a lawyer, and get the names and statements of all that were present. Most women worry about breast cancer and to put knowing off for two more months (on top of the pain and damage of the botched procedure) that is just plain reckless. I hope you recover quickly and it turns out to be nothing in the end.

I have to wait for two months to heal.  He did a number on my breast with that scalpel.

Military facility and doctors.  Last I checked you can't sue them, but that may have changed.  Maybe I have a biopsy jinx.  This is the third biopsy (not breast) in the last 15 years with the military, and the third time they've screwed it up.  Think I'd get a clue, but diff place, diff doctors...

I found the lump four months ago.  They couldn't get me in until this month, and tried to make me wait until the end of Sept for results (because AF policy says only a surgeon can give them to me, and all our surgeons are deployed but two).  I fought that and was able to get in a week later.

Since we are retired and have Tricare Prime, I can't even go to a civilian Dr unless we pay 100% because the base refuses to give me a referral since we have 10 radiologists on staff.  And even in we could get a referral it will only be to a Tricare approved Dr, which pretty much amounts to Medicaid Drs.....

We're paying (and probably changing plans) and going off base to someone I choose.  I don't care what anyone says.  Military healtcare sucks if you are female.  At least it always has for me.  They either ignore what I say, refuse to give anesthetic, or offer to cut away whatever problem I'm having. 

I mean what are the odds a surgeon would offer to take off a man's scrotum or any other body part, or pieces of it, to circumvent another biopsy that will likely be screwed up?  "I can just remove the lump surgically.  Cuts out the whole biopsy step."-The surgeon yesterday

Pfft.

And I will pray it is just a benign bump.

Thanks.

 

 

on Jul 28, 2010

Military facility and doctors. Last I checked you can't sue them

Ah there's the catch 22. We have Tricare Prime as well. My provider is a TPC and the wife provider is a civilian clinic (the military clinics are overcrowded in my area). She has it much better, her provider is open 8AM - 10PM, 365 days a year, no appointment. All her referrals have been to civilian practices.

Interesting point about the thyroid and cancer link. My wife had colon cancer is 2006 (now in remission). When she came to the US in 2008 she was diagnosed with a thyroid issue, which she now takes medication for. Wonder if that was part of the problem (it wasn't hereditary).

on Jul 28, 2010

Interesting point about the thyroid and cancer link. My wife had colon cancer is 2006 (now in remission). When she came to the US in 2008 she was diagnosed with a thyroid issue, which she now takes medication for. Wonder if that was part of the problem (it wasn't hereditary).

I don't know if there is a link between colon cancer and thyroid.  I've read breast, ovaries, and thyroid are all so hormonally linked that ANY hormonal imbalance can cause cancer in one or all of the three.

Is your wife's thyroid being treated effectively?  The military would only give me Synthroid, so I ordered some natural thyroid from England, then Canada, and wow, changed my  life!!  lol  At least it let me get back in my size 1's and 3's.  (Size before thyroid issues).  When the military Dr found out, he banished me to an off base Endo....lol....who PRESCRIBED those thyroid treatments....

My provider is a TPC and the wife provider is a civilian clinic (the military clinics are overcrowded in my area). She has it much better, her provider is open 8AM - 10PM, 365 days a year, no appointment. All her referrals have been to civilian practices.

We're looking at Tricare Standard because while more expensive co-pays, we pick our own Drs. 

 

on Jul 29, 2010

Military facility and doctors. Last I checked you can't sue them, but that may have changed. Maybe I have a biopsy jinx. This is the third biopsy (not breast) in the last 15 years with the military, and the third time they've screwed it up. Think I'd get a clue, but diff place, diff doctors...

In the field, I rate them at their best.  But at home......I have not heard or had good experience with any of them.  I would pay for my own in that case (I did  - my insurance refused a procedure my doctor ordered, so I paid for it myself.  That is still legal, although not for long under Obamacare).

on Jul 29, 2010

That is still legal, although not for long under Obamacare

What's scary is Obamacare is using military healthcare as a sort of "best practices" for national health care.  The women in this country are in for a rude awakening if that happens.  What they can't just cut off, they ignore.  lol

on Jul 29, 2010

What they can't just cut off, they ignore. lol

We can laugh today - but it will not be funny when it starts to happen.  There is often something far worse than doing nothing.  It is called doing something that is wrong.

on Jul 29, 2010

Just ran across this thread, Tova.  So sorry this happened.  The uncertainty and anxiety over the potential diagnosis are bad enough.

FWIW, you're not alone.  Sono-guided breast biopsies are not always easy, even for experienced clinicians, especially if the spot they're trying to reach is small and away from the chest wall.  Like trying to stab a small pea in big block of Jell-O while looking the other way.  If they have it available at a regional facility, might ask for a stereotactic biopsy if another go at it is necessary.  Even that technique can miss the mark when the iffy spot is small, but it has a better chance of succeeding.

Not common with breast lumps, but even if they hit the target the biopsy can sometimes be non-diagnostic.  Let's just count on this thing being benign.

Thoughts are with you.

on Jul 29, 2010

Like trying to stab a small pea in big block of Jell-O while looking the other way. If they have it available at a regional facility, might ask for a stereotactic biopsy if another go at it is necessary.

It's the size of a large marble, and I have B cup breasts (Sorry if TMI).  When I'm on my back, you can see the lump pushing up just a little bit.  It distorts the natural curve if you know what I mean.

The surgeon said (in so many words when my husband pushed the topic) that the Radiologist shouldn't have missed it because it is so visible to the naked eye as well as on the ultrasound.  The problem is the radiologist couldn't operate the equipment well.

The surgeon also said the tissue taken was normal tissue, and that even if its benign it will show differently than normal tissue.  That and the location of the incision made the surgeon "certain" the radiologist missed the lump.

I'll get it worked out.  I understand medicine isn't a perfect science, but I expect a Dr who doesn't hesitate and show uncertainty during a procedure, and is at least moderately adept on the equipment.  He could have stepped out of the room and asked for help.  He chose not too.

on Jul 29, 2010

Is your wife's thyroid being treated effectively? The military would only give me Synthroid, so I ordered some natural thyroid from England, then Canada, and wow, changed my life!! lol At least it let me get back in my size 1's and 3's. (Size before thyroid issues). When the military Dr found out, he banished me to an off base Endo....lol....who PRESCRIBED those thyroid treatments....

Yes, she is on Synthyroid (0.075mg), but it was prescribed by a civilian doctor. I don't believe her case is so severe as her weight seems unaffected negatively. Of course she is a little Asian woman to begin with. 

on Jul 29, 2010

In the field, I rate them at their best. But at home......I have not heard or had good experience with any of them.

Unfortunately, I see this being the best case scenario for folks in the near future. They will experience first hand what military vets experience today. Change you can believe in.

on Jul 29, 2010

I didn't mean to provoke revelation of more details, Tova, but from your additional TMI it would seem the ultrasound was a bit superfluous.  Biopsying a palpable/visible lump is a different matter that I wouldn't expect would require sono guidance.

Good luck getting it worked out, girl.

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