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Published on March 1, 2006 By Tova7 In Internet

As some of you know my ten year old son received WOW for his 10th birthday.  Yes I bought it for him because I didn't know anything about the game.  And it caused all kinds of trauma in our family.  Link

So now I have the game, that's been used ONE time and don't know what to do with it.

I thought I would sell it in the local paper, but then thought first I'd give anyone a chance here on JU to grab it.

Total price including shipping $25.  I will mail it anywhere inside the US.

Any takers?


Comments (Page 1)
on Mar 01, 2006
Try eBay.
on Mar 01, 2006

Nah, I'll just use the local paper...I'm not a big fan of ebay anymore.

Thanks

on Mar 01, 2006
I just read your article that you linked to....... and a few of your others too. A damn good read!! Thanks.
Incidentally, you are not alone, I have had the exact same conversation with MY son about games etc.
It's a fine balance which is hard to achieve.

Good luck selling the game.
on Mar 01, 2006
Wow T....just read your link. I had a similar experience as you way back when my son was 12. I completely understood the anger you felt at his disrespect. Parenting isn't for cowards....that's for sure. It's hard work but you will reap the benefits in a huge way someday for all this hard work.

I remember one day when my son thought I was being unreasonable and said he was going to run away. I picked him up off the couch by his ear and threw him out the front door. I said...."Have a nice life," and slammed the door. I felt awful afterwards. But thankfully he only went as far as the mailbox and turned around.

Just so you know.....he turned out to be a great son and very loving as well despite my failures at times in responding like I should have. He's my gem today.
on Mar 01, 2006

I have had the exact same conversation with MY son about games etc.
It's a fine balance which is hard to achieve.

I am hearing that A LOT from some of the parents around me.  Who ever thought video games would become such problems?  If I only knew, I'd have stopped playing pac man when it first came out! heh 

I just read your article that you linked to....... and a few of your others too. A damn good read!! Thanks

Thank you.  That is very nice. 

on Mar 01, 2006

picked him up off the couch by his ear and threw him out the front door. I said...."Have a nice life," and slammed the door. I felt awful afterwards.

We must have been separated at birth.  This sounds so much like me it's scary.

I love my kids, but sometimes I do things that are not always well thought out.

he turned out to be a great son and very loving as well despite my failures at times in responding like I should have. He's my gem today.

Always good to know...and glad to hear!

on Mar 02, 2006
Well, I don't have kids and my fiancee and I have talked about it and we're not sure we want to have kids, but that's another story for another time. However, as a member of the planet earth (at times anyway) I do appreciate that parents like you take a stand against their kids at home in an attempt to teach them the difference between right and wrong and generally how to act in public. It seems that more and more lately parents just have kids and then expect that they will raise themselves as good upstanding members of society. Unfortunately as we see in the news that just isn't the case. So, it's good to see there are still parents out there fighting the good fight so to speak!

BTW, I played some WoW myself, but I found that in order to really enjoy the game and get the most out of your experience you really have to devote far too much time to the process. I'm more of a casual gamer I guess because 4 or more hour stints in front of the computer just don't interest me when I've got my road bike and golf clubs calling my name...
on Mar 02, 2006

BTW, I played some WoW myself, but I found that in order to really enjoy the game and get the most out of your experience you really have to devote far too much time to the process. I'm more of a casual gamer I guess because 4 or more hour stints in front of the computer just don't interest me when I've got my road bike and golf clubs calling my name...

This process you describe was explained to me by someone who knows a lot about games....he says its called the tread mill effect.  They actually design the games to give "prizes" just enough to keep you coming back for more.

My son was getting addicted, heck he WAS addicted, and I don't want him to be addicted to anything at 10.

Thank you for your nice comments.  You are very wise to think long and hard about having kids BEFORE you have them.  We waited seven years before taking the plunge (mostly because we couldn't find anything that really convinced us it was a good idea! haha).

But kids are a joy as much as they are a pain....its about 50/50 right now.  I hear it gets much less joy and more pain when they get older.

Oh the AGONY!

Thanks for reading!

on Mar 02, 2006
Hey Tova

I just got an email alert from AFA saying there is a new game out for parents to be aware of. It's called 25 to Life. It basically teaches kids to kill policemen and use civilians as shields.

I actually heard a talk one time by a military man entitled "Teaching our Kids to Kill." He said that kids have amazing accuracy when shooting at targets. His take is that the accuracy is linked to these games. He went to Columbine and the other places where these kids took the lives of others and investigated the amount of shots fired to the direct hits. It was scary the accuracy of these young shooters, and it all starts with these video games. He said their accuracy was better than many men in the army and that they started looking at using these games as well to help their own men become more proficient.

Like everything else I'm sure there are good and bad in the video game world. It's becoming increasingly evident tho that parents play the role of policeman as well as all the other duties that entail bringing up a child and watch everything that comes into the house.

We got really good at breaking CD's. It was very carthadic. But that's another story.

on Mar 03, 2006
It's called 25 to Life. It basically teaches kids to kill policemen and use civilians as shields.


25 to Life gives the player the option to play as "the bad guy" or as a police officer. These games are adult games and are clearly marked as such.

If your kid is a gamer (and KFC, my understanding is that your kids are now grown, so I'm speaking generally, not you specifically), it's important for you to be aware not only of what your kid is playing, but of the actual content of the games...not the hype. There's a plethora of video game magazines out there, and I encourage parents to get some subscriptions and read them. Stay informed, and don't believe every hysterical thing a preacher or politician says...they usually have no clue what's actually in the games.
on Mar 03, 2006
I encourage parents to get some subscriptions and read them. Stay informed, and don't believe every hysterical thing a preacher or politician says...they usually have no clue what's actually in the games.


HAHA. That is exactly what my husband says every time a new game comes out that my son wants now.

It wasn't until WOW that I discovered my son was starting to like games that "could" have adult content. (Because the game is fine, as much as I saw of it content wise, its the jerks on line who mess it up.) He was so into Spyro, Sonic, then skateboarding vids, stuff like that I didn't realize he'd outgrow them so soon.

We let him play lots of shooting games...meaning Military games, which of course require a lot of shooting. In our family it would be hypocritical to say he couldn't play those games when he owns and shoots real guns with his dad. So I don't have a problem with that.
on Mar 03, 2006
Because the game is fine, as much as I saw of it content wise, its the jerks on line who mess it up.

As you say, official content wise - the game is fine. Additionally, according to the TOS and TOU, any players that are affected by questionable material have the right to report the individual for harrassment and inappropriate behavior. I do report them when it happens (and some of these have even resulting in a banning of the account in question) as I don't feel it's appropriate behavior in a community setting.

Having said that, I do not allow my 10 year old to play. He's a rather mature 10 year old and understands concepts that I wasn't really aware of until I was much older. However, the only time that I would think of allowing him to play would be if I was online at the same time. Since I don't have a second computer nor the room in the budget for an additional monthly fee, he doesn't get to play right now.
on Mar 03, 2006

He's a rather mature 10 year old and understands concepts that I wasn't really aware of until I was much older. However, the only time that I would think of allowing him to play would be if I was online at the same time. Since I don't have a second computer nor the room in the budget for an additional monthly fee, he doesn't get to play right now.

That is it in a nutshell.

I don't have the TIME to sit and play with him...nor in all honesty the inclination.  Not when he has a million other games he can play.

on Mar 03, 2006
Whatever happened to scrabble, parchesi or......chess!!

on Mar 04, 2006

Whatever happened to scrabble, parchesi or......chess!!

We play plenty of those games, especially chess, which I totally suck and my ten year old whips me....

Video games are fun for kids because NOW they can play them with their other friends at the same time (thinking wi fi here)..my son uses his Nintendo ds and plays a game with his friends while he is sitting here...and they at their house.  I don't have to worry about pervs on the net.

As for the stand alone games...I don't see a problem with them as long as it doesn't become the focus of a child's life.  By nature they are somewhat addictive, so personally I limit play time to weekends only...and he has to earn one hours vid time with an hour reading, working, playing outside, playing with his brother, etc.

It's worked like a charm so far.